I'm a FOSS person but can you FOSS hyperzealots shut the fuck up when someone is being forced to use proprietary software, they don't need to hear your diatribe
:giga
@sun counterpoint: please do it more and more actually, so that people are massively put off foss so we can have foss die
@sun@shitposter.world as a FOSS micro-hyperzealot, I thank the ethereal spirits of the network, every day, that people are actually still /choosing/ to use corporate proprietary software. When people are /really/ at the point of being /forced/ to use proprietary software, I think we should be up in arms instead :p
@ins0mniak @dj @p @sun Well few days ago I landed on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compaq_Portable_486 which has uncited/non-referenced:
A case-modified version of the colour screen variant with replaced internals was used as a prop in the 1995 film Hackers. With its internals replaced by those of a Macintosh laptop, it served as the character Dade Murphy's (Aliases: Zero Cool and Crash Override) primary computer for the first half of the film.
@ins0mniak @dj @p @sun Yeah I wish there would be a document somewhere about the hardware and software used in that movie.
Specially as like, I can identify Unixes and well known 80's home computers pretty well but other stuff… nope.
Specially as like, I can identify Unixes and well known 80's home computers pretty well but other stuff… nope.
@ins0mniak @dj @p @sun Yeah quite a lot of that movie makes no sense like that but it's either funny or cool.
@ins0mniak @dj @lanodan @sun I don't think so. I got the photos from eBay, ha.
If I'd had the cash, I would be able to show more photos of the machine because I would have it. Behind amber monochrome CRTs, orange plasma displays are up there on my list.
If I'd had the cash, I would be able to show more photos of the machine because I would have it. Behind amber monochrome CRTs, orange plasma displays are up there on my list.
@lanodan @dj @sun It looks enchanting. I think the Gridcase machines looked great, too.
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@lanodan @ins0mniak @dj @sun
> Well few days ago I landed on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compaq_Portable_486
Wikipedia is like little baby. Step up to the plate: http://www.starringthecomputer.com/feature.html?f=133
> Well few days ago I landed on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compaq_Portable_486
Wikipedia is like little baby. Step up to the plate: http://www.starringthecomputer.com/feature.html?f=133
@sun Oh man, I love Linux and FOSS, it's done so much for me, but people need to fucking chill out.
@p @dj @ins0mniak @sun
> This machine displays graphical capabilities way beyond what the Apple is capable of.
ROLF
> This machine displays graphical capabilities way beyond what the Apple is capable of.
ROLF
@p @dj @ins0mniak @sun Meanwhile IRIX has fsn(1) for Jurassic Park's "hacking the gibson" kind of sequence.
@sun uh oh, you did a heckin heresy! prepare to be GNU/excommunicated
@mischievoustomato @sun No, I don't need more GNU/Glowies on my TLs than Suiseiseki.
@ins0mniak @dj @lanodan @sun That site says what all of them are. The index works both ways, too: it shows all the movies a computer appeared in. http://www.starringthecomputer.com/computer.html?c=183
Jurassic Park had a surprisingly diverse line-up of gear: http://www.starringthecomputer.com/feature.html?f=11 .
You can probably ping the guy by email and ask him about the Portable 486 in Hackers. He'd probably be interested. He's constantly updating these lists.
Jurassic Park had a surprisingly diverse line-up of gear: http://www.starringthecomputer.com/feature.html?f=11 .
You can probably ping the guy by email and ask him about the Portable 486 in Hackers. He'd probably be interested. He's constantly updating these lists.
@p @dj @ins0mniak @lanodan @zaitcev I used a JavaOS JavaStation at a conference once, it had an embedded smartcard reader in it. You shoved in the card and it would open up your desktop just as you left it. when you were done you yanked out your card and went on your way
@lanodan @dj @ins0mniak @sun Ha, the rankings for visibility/importance/realism, like...this dude is thorough. I wanna party with this guy. 
@lanodan @ins0mniak @dj @p @sun https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLhtmzEnkZk and
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxY6CUimZ9M (custom build of working laptop)
from
https://www.youtube.com/@HackersCurator
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxY6CUimZ9M (custom build of working laptop)
from
https://www.youtube.com/@HackersCurator
@lanodan @feld @dj @ins0mniak @sun @zaitcev
> Feels kind of sad that closest we are to this
I don't know how many times I have to post the Octopus papers.
2006--give_me_back_my_personal_mainframe.pdf
2007--towards_persistent_distributed_interfaces.pdf
2012--personal_pervasive_environments.pdf
> Feels kind of sad that closest we are to this
I don't know how many times I have to post the Octopus papers.
2006--give_me_back_my_personal_mainframe.pdf
2007--towards_persistent_distributed_interfaces.pdf
2012--personal_pervasive_environments.pdf
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@judgedread Very cool machines. NASA had a lot of them, too: entire system was in ROM so they were durable.
The Gridcase 3's logo was a dick, which is an added bonus.
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The Gridcase 3's logo was a dick, which is an added bonus.
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@RedTechEngineer @dj @feld @ins0mniak @lanodan @sun @zaitcev The future was invented in the 90s and substantial progress seems to have stopped, we keep trying to reinvent the computers of the 80s.
@p @dj @ins0mniak @lanodan @sun The Libretto is one of my favorites it is shame the plastics are so bad. I saw a guy on YouTube that designed a 3D printable replacement shell for one.
@gray @dj @ins0mniak @lanodan @sun Oh, nice. That's one of my issues with the Thinkpads after Lenovo took over: they stopped using rubberized plastic and then you get cases cracking. I went through about three T500s because they also stopped making them with steel frames, so I ended up with a hinge through the screen.
Have you seen the Hand386? Fun-looking little machines.
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Have you seen the Hand386? Fun-looking little machines.
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@p @dj @feld @ins0mniak @sun @zaitcev
> Soon we'll have ubiquitous access to the internet.
In a way yeah, most people got internet connectivity in their pockets, but it's very unreliable internet so you need the protocols to cope with intermittent connectivity or basically use a bouncer/proxy/remote-session/…
> Soon we'll have ubiquitous access to the internet.
In a way yeah, most people got internet connectivity in their pockets, but it's very unreliable internet so you need the protocols to cope with intermittent connectivity or basically use a bouncer/proxy/remote-session/…
@lanodan @dj @feld @ins0mniak @sun @zaitcev
> btw might want something like that added in the location block of your nginx config so that file saving dialogs get the proper name out:
Oh, yeah, I used to do that. The only issue is that I ended up reappropriating an endpoint that I wanted to not use for hosting files but I keep using it because it keeps being convenient for that. The FSE stuff used to go through the /media/ endpoint and I decided to just shove it into that other one when I wrote the uploader, so I keep having to add stuff, like there wasn't any cache-control/expires/etc. until yesterday. New version deployed.
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> btw might want something like that added in the location block of your nginx config so that file saving dialogs get the proper name out:
Oh, yeah, I used to do that. The only issue is that I ended up reappropriating an endpoint that I wanted to not use for hosting files but I keep using it because it keeps being convenient for that. The FSE stuff used to go through the /media/ endpoint and I decided to just shove it into that other one when I wrote the uploader, so I keep having to add stuff, like there wasn't any cache-control/expires/etc. until yesterday. New version deployed.
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@p @dj @ins0mniak @lanodan @sun Yeah I’ve seen those before. They seem interesting and I thought about getting one and loading an old NetBSD release on it.
@p @dj @ins0mniak @lanodan @sun If I remember correctly it has a 386SX so as long as Plan 9 doesn’t need an FPU it might boot it.
@gray @dj @ins0mniak @lanodan @sun Pretty sure it will boot without an FPU, but don't quote me on that. The original setup was a bunch of cheap diskless x86 terminals that'd tftp enough of the system to log into the MIPS boxes downstairs. They didn't write a screen-locking program, you'd just flip the power switch if you were going away. Cool system, it'd be fun to set up.
@sun @dj@ak.parcero.casa @p @ins0mniak @lanodan @zaitcev Ah, didn't know that the Sun Rays had a predecessor. We had Sun Rays in our offices , including the meeting rooms. So instead of lugging around laptops, you'd just pull out your card, and the person presenting in the meeting would put their card into the Sun Ray in the meeting room.
@sun @p @ins0mniak @lanodan @zaitcev They, i.e. the Sunfire the sessions were running on, had to be properly sized, for sure! But since it was Sun offices, that part was more or less taken care of. 😉
@sun @p @dj@ak.parcero.casa @ins0mniak @lanodan @zaitcev The software that does that is called SunRay and is still installable on modern #OpenIndiana system with modern software maintained by people in their free time support the project here https://opencollective.org/openindiana
@p @gray @dj @ins0mniak @lanodan @sun The build quality on everything has gone to sh*t. They used to put nickel plates and aluminum frame reinforcements inside the 1980's and 90's game consoles. (Half the weight of the SNES was it's baseplate).
These days, your shit's made to crack apart in a couple of years. Piss poor plastics which are hyper light sensitive, no metal innards and screws made of fuckin butter.
Some bean-counting pencil-dick in accounting no doubt thought this was brilliant savings in shipping.... and the planned convalescence of the product is a sweet sweet sweet added bonus. (If not a primary consideration).
I won't forget what was taken from us.
These days, your shit's made to crack apart in a couple of years. Piss poor plastics which are hyper light sensitive, no metal innards and screws made of fuckin butter.
Some bean-counting pencil-dick in accounting no doubt thought this was brilliant savings in shipping.... and the planned convalescence of the product is a sweet sweet sweet added bonus. (If not a primary consideration).
I won't forget what was taken from us.
@SilverDeth @dj @gray @ins0mniak @lanodan @sun
> The build quality on everything has gone to sh*t.
Absolutely. You see people using still appliances from the 60s, but you almost never see anyone using appliances from the 90s.
> (Half the weight of the SNES was it's baseplate).
Iwata was obsessed with this kind of thing; he wouldn't ship the Wii until you could drop a TV on it.
> Some bean-counting pencil-dick in accounting no doubt thought this was brilliant savings in shipping.... and the planned convalescence of the product is a sweet sweet sweet added bonus. (If not a primary consideration).
In order to hurt the resale market, Apple started offering free laser engraving for iPhones, so some companies are clearly willing to spend more money to make it harder.
> The build quality on everything has gone to sh*t.
Absolutely. You see people using still appliances from the 60s, but you almost never see anyone using appliances from the 90s.
> (Half the weight of the SNES was it's baseplate).
Iwata was obsessed with this kind of thing; he wouldn't ship the Wii until you could drop a TV on it.
> Some bean-counting pencil-dick in accounting no doubt thought this was brilliant savings in shipping.... and the planned convalescence of the product is a sweet sweet sweet added bonus. (If not a primary consideration).
In order to hurt the resale market, Apple started offering free laser engraving for iPhones, so some companies are clearly willing to spend more money to make it harder.
@p @dj @gray @ins0mniak @lanodan @sun
Having repaired my GB and GB Advanced SP multiple times over the years, the difference the the shell quality is notable. The original game boy "flying brick's" case is twice as thick, and despite having to clean the yellowing with peroxide and Oxy, (which can weaken the plastic over time), its near bomb-proof still.
Old consumer electronics were tanks.
Having repaired my GB and GB Advanced SP multiple times over the years, the difference the the shell quality is notable. The original game boy "flying brick's" case is twice as thick, and despite having to clean the yellowing with peroxide and Oxy, (which can weaken the plastic over time), its near bomb-proof still.
Old consumer electronics were tanks.
@SilverDeth @dj @gray @p @ins0mniak @sun
> which can weaken the plastic over time
Pretty much why I feel like the only thing I'd consider for yellowed stuff is painting over it. (And being careful about said paint)
Luckily most of my stuff isn't white/beige plastic.
> which can weaken the plastic over time
Pretty much why I feel like the only thing I'd consider for yellowed stuff is painting over it. (And being careful about said paint)
Luckily most of my stuff isn't white/beige plastic.
@lanodan @dj @gray @ins0mniak @p @sun
Painting would be cool, but I've yet to run into a paintjob that will keep up with the wear and tear. Even the paints baked on the SP's wear at the various contact points, revealing the grey ABS plastic underneath.
The DS Lite's had a clear-coat that held up very very well, but people complained about the finger-prints so they went to a mat finish on the DSi.
For the money, the Original Nintendo DS could play Game Boy, Game Boy Color, GBA and DS games. Once you replaced the displays with modern ones (better backlight), you have an excellent handheld that can play a huge library of games and has great build quality.
(All the various Chineseium rom-hack handhelds are made from wet cardboard and Elmer's paste - and quickly fail to anything beyond novelty use - they make modern brand-name handhelds look like tanks in contrast).
This is why I play on original hardware, and have gotten very very good at fixing it over the years. I have 6 bins of repair parts/dead systems that I salvage from.
Painting would be cool, but I've yet to run into a paintjob that will keep up with the wear and tear. Even the paints baked on the SP's wear at the various contact points, revealing the grey ABS plastic underneath.
The DS Lite's had a clear-coat that held up very very well, but people complained about the finger-prints so they went to a mat finish on the DSi.
For the money, the Original Nintendo DS could play Game Boy, Game Boy Color, GBA and DS games. Once you replaced the displays with modern ones (better backlight), you have an excellent handheld that can play a huge library of games and has great build quality.
(All the various Chineseium rom-hack handhelds are made from wet cardboard and Elmer's paste - and quickly fail to anything beyond novelty use - they make modern brand-name handhelds look like tanks in contrast).
This is why I play on original hardware, and have gotten very very good at fixing it over the years. I have 6 bins of repair parts/dead systems that I salvage from.
@SilverDeth @dj @gray @ins0mniak @lanodan @sun
> its near bomb-proof still.
Actually bomb-proof. Have you seen the Gulf War Game Boy? The cart won't come out so it's stuck playing Tetris forever, but it still works.
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> its near bomb-proof still.
Actually bomb-proof. Have you seen the Gulf War Game Boy? The cart won't come out so it's stuck playing Tetris forever, but it still works.
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Mhm! The article is in the first picture! Pretty neato read, also a wholesome story about grandpa-gamer :D
@ins0mniak @dj @SilverDeth @p @lanodan @sun My first computer was one of the late 90s early 2000s blue gray Pavilions and I still think they look pretty good.
@lanodan @SilverDeth @dj @gray @ins0mniak @sun Probably not; I'd be really surprised if the rubber membranes survived.
@p @dj @gray @SilverDeth @ins0mniak @sun Well article says start/select still does and A/B just melted
@SilverDeth @dj @gray @ins0mniak @lanodan @sun Ha, after I moved out but before I acquired enough storage space, there were raids by younger cousins and my brother was also always looking for weed money; none of my copies of Nintendo Power survived.
@SilverDeth @dj @gray @ins0mniak @lanodan @sun Weed money is what happened to most of the games; children destroyed the magazines.
@p @dj @gray @ins0mniak @lanodan @sun
Nintendo even applied a special protective film on the GB speaker that gave the unit a fair bit of water resistance. You could drop the thing in the toilet, and so long as you let it dry completely, and didn't power it on wet, it would most likely survive un-damaged.
Most common failure point on a "beige-brick" GB is the D-pad. The silicone pads were much thinner than the A/B buttons for some reason.
Nintendo even applied a special protective film on the GB speaker that gave the unit a fair bit of water resistance. You could drop the thing in the toilet, and so long as you let it dry completely, and didn't power it on wet, it would most likely survive un-damaged.
Most common failure point on a "beige-brick" GB is the D-pad. The silicone pads were much thinner than the A/B buttons for some reason.
@ins0mniak @dj @gray @lanodan @p @sun
Only a couple of the devs spoke English, most spoke French. They showed some clips of the built in sun-glasses and the crowd lots their shit (in a good way). My pal was worried they were gonna nerf the anti-globalist messaging that permeate the first game, and he waited in line to ask them if the narrative was going to change. They said it was a prequel, and showing how we reached the world of the first game.
That panel was his big thing, I haven't played the Deus Ex games, I went for the classic arcade and the concerts they had.
Only a couple of the devs spoke English, most spoke French. They showed some clips of the built in sun-glasses and the crowd lots their shit (in a good way). My pal was worried they were gonna nerf the anti-globalist messaging that permeate the first game, and he waited in line to ask them if the narrative was going to change. They said it was a prequel, and showing how we reached the world of the first game.
That panel was his big thing, I haven't played the Deus Ex games, I went for the classic arcade and the concerts they had.
@SilverDeth @dj @gray @p @lanodan @sun Im a massive fan of Deus Ex bro. I love the original, and I probably play through human revolution every 6 months or so.
They did a really good job with it IMO, Im almost glad its hibernating as a series right now because anyone trying to do it with a bunch of woke crap is just going to destroy it.
They did a really good job with it IMO, Im almost glad its hibernating as a series right now because anyone trying to do it with a bunch of woke crap is just going to destroy it.
